Wednesday, November 18

ethics class

something very interesting happened today..in ethics class...we had a debate between ourselves on some topics..and during the second debate, we discussed about IVF from islamic point of view, which is totally out of the topic..our ethic's tutor (i forgot his name!!) was interested knowing that in islam, a couple must use their own sperms/eggs for IVF process. We are not allowed to use others/donor's sperms/eggs for fertilization.

Curiously, he asked us whether we(islam) can adopt children and we answered yes! And he asked us what's the difference between adopted child and the child produced from IVF using donors' sperm/egg?? and i answered that the child produced are outside of marriage ,which is prohibited...and then he asked again, "so, it is similar to adultery??as if the child was created from adultery??" and i, without thinking much, nodded my head..

He then said something about the history of adultery, which i can't remember and said that adultery was prohibited because it is like breaking a promise to your partner and bla bla bla (i didn't pay any attention during this part). he asked again, saying that people enjoy the thing when they commit adultery but IVF is not an 'enjoyable' process. in fact, it is a difficult process."

I was thinking about telling him that IVF using donor's sperms/eggs will going to make the 'keturunan' thing get more complicated (you know, marriage between siblings can occur ) but i don't know how to use the correct sentence to make him understand. So i hesitated. Then Iiman
explained to him about the 'keturunan' thing and the marriage between siblings, which made me rase lega cause somebody was there to explained it to him..

Being an ethics tutor had somehow developed his critical thinking, so he asked again, what if the NHS system can ensure you that the donor will not be someone related to you, and the marriage between siblings can be avoided??err.... *complete silence* Fandi tried to explain about the naming in islam (bin/binti), saying that there will be some confusion in it but somehow i think it is not enough to convince him...

i felt very frustrated (geram sangat2) to myself because i am unable to explain those stuff to the tutor, which may trigger him to think about the beauty of islam..nampak sangat x ckup ilmu even to explain simple thing like that..haih~i need to learn more....

oh, yeah..by the way, the debate topics were very interesting..it was different with our(malay) thinking..somehow it has trigger my mind to think from the point of view of other people(locals especially) and some issues here. these are the topics:

  • this house believes that Parliament should pass a law permitting the sale of non-regenerative organs
  • this house believes that couples should not get cheaper IVF treatment in return for egg donation
  • this house believes that the UK should adopt an opt-out system for cadaveric organ donation (trust me, opt-out system was very interesting!!!)
  • this house believes that embryos should not be created unless it is intended that they be implanted
  • this house believes that there should be no need for consent for the use of anonimysed human tissue for research once it has been legitimatey taken as a pathological specimen

you guys should take some times and think about these topics so that you can activate your critical thinking..(yeah, it is like the TOK thingie...)

6 comments:

khausar said...

i think further readings bout this issue will help a lot. then try to explain to him again. don't forget to prepare yourself with answers to possible questions which he may ask as well... probably, u can make a one-to-one meeting with him and clarify everything !

anyway, i loathe the fourth topic very much =D

Syamin said...

yeah...have to prepared from a to z for the next class..but one-to-one meeting cm pelik je..huhu

ahmad zaid said...

remain silence if not sure about it, balik rumah and search about it, later can share with ethic teacher...

it is not easy to explain to them. his logic quite strong.

but people like ahmed deedat already encounter their logic in many aspect they argue about islam.

Syamin said...

im just afraid that i might not have the chance to explain/share it with the teacher..

so..we need to learn more, and increase our knowledge in Islam to prepared for any circumstances..

madihah said...

Salam Syamin

Bersangka baik-
Alhamdulillah mereka ingin belajar mengenai islam. Tambahlah ilmu pengetahuan dan jangan cakap ikut suka hati jer. Sebab takut apa yg kita cakap itu betul, tetapi tidak tepat.

Bersangka buruk-
Lecturer ethics ni bukan tak pernah jumpa org islam. Dan kadang-kadang mereka lebih tahu dari kita sendiri. Tetapi saja nak uji kita. Depan kawan-kawan kita. Maka, pandai2 la bezakan.

Huhuhuhuu... ethics ooo ethics. Kan bagus kalau jadi org islam je. Takyah susah2 fikir pasal ethics. Allah dan Rasulnya dan ajar apa yang ethical dan apa yg tidak. =)

syamin said...

wsalam
menarik yg brsangka buruk tu..xpenah terfikir lak..hurm..kene alert sket pasni..thanx btw..